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	<title>Comments on: Samurai Odd-Pair Sudoku</title>
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		<title>By: Gareth Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for the feedback on this one - it&#039;s extremely useful because now I know that these larger ones aren&#039;t as enjoyable, so I will avoid them in future. :)  This particular puzzle had some quad sets in I think, but I don&#039;t really remember now.

Interesting point to compare it to Two-away or Consecutive Sudoku - all these &quot;relationship X between two squares&quot; puzzles (and there are lots of other variants) work on similar lines of course. The secret (as a creator) is to find the sweet-spot where the extra information rewards rather than creates extra work - in this puzzle it obviously went too far towards the latter. :)

The only other implication of the 4/5 break-down I was inferring is simply that in all the ones I solved myself I found that I ended up with lots of pairs, triples and quads, but much more clearly signalled than in a regular puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for the feedback on this one &#8211; it&#8217;s extremely useful because now I know that these larger ones aren&#8217;t as enjoyable, so I will avoid them in future. <img src='http://www.garethmoore.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   This particular puzzle had some quad sets in I think, but I don&#8217;t really remember now.</p>
<p>Interesting point to compare it to Two-away or Consecutive Sudoku &#8211; all these &#8220;relationship X between two squares&#8221; puzzles (and there are lots of other variants) work on similar lines of course. The secret (as a creator) is to find the sweet-spot where the extra information rewards rather than creates extra work &#8211; in this puzzle it obviously went too far towards the latter. <img src='http://www.garethmoore.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The only other implication of the 4/5 break-down I was inferring is simply that in all the ones I solved myself I found that I ended up with lots of pairs, triples and quads, but much more clearly signalled than in a regular puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Spittledung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spittledung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally got it ... but did NOT enjoy this one. :(

I don&#039;t see how you could say &quot;It eliminates lots of possibilities from squares relatively quickly, so you’re left with more deductive logic and less pencil-mark housekeeping.&quot; ... I had to eventually use a loop technique to crack it. Of course I probably missed something as usual ... but it was very frustrating. Makes me not look forward to the one in Issue 4.

I was also frustrated with 2-away consecutive sudokus as well. In those the adjacent numbers paired up into EVEN/EVEN or ODD/ODD (rather than ODD/EVEN), but at least you knew the range of numbers given one of the digits.

So going on from what you have told us:

1. The only way for the sum to be odd is if one of the numbers next to the O is odd and the other is even.

2. There are 5 odd numbers and 4 even numbers per row/column/region. (As usual)

....is there something else I am missing that might help me solve these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally got it &#8230; but did NOT enjoy this one. <img src='http://www.garethmoore.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you could say &#8220;It eliminates lots of possibilities from squares relatively quickly, so you’re left with more deductive logic and less pencil-mark housekeeping.&#8221; &#8230; I had to eventually use a loop technique to crack it. Of course I probably missed something as usual &#8230; but it was very frustrating. Makes me not look forward to the one in Issue 4.</p>
<p>I was also frustrated with 2-away consecutive sudokus as well. In those the adjacent numbers paired up into EVEN/EVEN or ODD/ODD (rather than ODD/EVEN), but at least you knew the range of numbers given one of the digits.</p>
<p>So going on from what you have told us:</p>
<p>1. The only way for the sum to be odd is if one of the numbers next to the O is odd and the other is even.</p>
<p>2. There are 5 odd numbers and 4 even numbers per row/column/region. (As usual)</p>
<p>&#8230;.is there something else I am missing that might help me solve these?</p>
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